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C.S.M.P. Digest             Mon, 22 Jun 92       Volume 1 : Issue 120

Today's Topics:

    Getting A5 in VBL tasks
    How to center Alerts?
    Fun with FindFolder
    Think C 4 & 5
    SetLineWidth question
    Image measurement for the Mac ??
    Are "virtual" (software) monitors possible?
    detecting when a volume or floppy is mounted, how?
    Two questions
    HOW do I get the finder to update its file information..
    Need Graphics Book Rec


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From: [e-mail] (The Anarch)
Subject: Getting A5 in VBL tasks
Date: 13 May 92 00:33:52 GMT
Organization: Secular Humanists from Hell


     Now that SetUpA5 and RestoreA5 should not be used, how are people
getting globals in VBL tasks?  IM VI doesn't seem to address it.  I've read
the stuff about using refCons to pass A5, but of course you don't have
any refCons for VBL tasks (or do you?  Maybe I've missed something).  I
don't want to use the Time Manager because this is for animation.  I can
think of one way to do it, storing A5 into the body of the task code, but
IM VI *does* mention this approach and discourages it.  Any other ideas?

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From: [e-mail] (Chris Wysocki)
Date: 13 May 92 14:40:23 GMT
Organization: Harvard University, Cambridge, MA

In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (The Anarch) writes:

>      Now that SetUpA5 and RestoreA5 should not be used, how are people
> getting globals in VBL tasks?

When a VBL task is called, A0 points to the VBLTask record associated
with the VBL task.  You can take advantage of this by storing the proper
value of A5 just *before* the VBLTask record.  In C, you would declare a
struct such as:

    typedef struct {
        long    curA5;
        VBLTask vbl;
    } MyVBLTask;

and put the current value of A5 in the curA5 field when installing the
VBL task.  Your VBL task can then get the correct value of A5 from
- -4(A0).  If it isn't obvious, A5 should be set up in this manner before
doing anything that might trash the contents of A0.

(All of this is documented in the original "Programmer's Guide to
MultiFinder", but it appears that this information didn't make it into
the Memory Management chapter in IM VI.)

Chris Wysocki
[e-mail]

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From: [e-mail] (Jim Reekes)
Date: 17 May 92 01:49:01 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer, Inc.

In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (The Anarch) writes:
>
>
>      Now that SetUpA5 and RestoreA5 should not be used, how are people
> getting globals in VBL tasks?  IM VI doesn't seem to address it.  I've read
> the stuff about using refCons to pass A5, but of course you don't have
> any refCons for VBL tasks (or do you?  Maybe I've missed something).  I
> don't want to use the Time Manager because this is for animation.  I can
> think of one way to do it, storing A5 into the body of the task code, but
> IM VI *does* mention this approach and discourages it.  Any other ideas?

Read Tech Note 180.  It even has the exact code you're asking for.

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                             |          Sound Manager Expert
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From: [e-mail] (Jim Ryan)
Subject: How to center Alerts?
Date: 12 May 92 20:43:11 GMT
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated

How does one center an alert?  I'm using Think C.

Thanks,
Jim Ryan

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From: [e-mail] (Lawrence D'Oliveiro, Waikato University)
Date: 13 May 92 04:28:52 GMT
Organization: University of Waikato, Hamilton, New Zealand

In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Jim Ryan) writes:
> How does one center an alert?  I'm using Think C.

Congratulations! You've discovered the main reason for giving up on ALRTs,
and using DLOGs exclusively.

Lawrence
resident VideoBigot and QuickTime enthusiast

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From: [e-mail] (Phil Shapiro)
Date: 13 May 92 14:26:54 GMT
Organization: Symantec Corp.

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail]
(Lawrence D'Oliveiro, Waikato University) writes:

   In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Jim
   Ryan) writes:
  > How does one center an alert?  I'm using Think C.

   Congratulations! You've discovered the main reason for giving up on
   ALRTs, and using DLOGs exclusively.

Hmm, I'm not sure what you mean by this -- both DLOGs and ALRTs can be
centered using the same code. If you're using THINK C, you can use the
PositionDialog() routine in TBUtilities.c, which is provided with the
TCL.

    -phil
- --
   Phil Shapiro                                   Software Engineer
   Language Products Group                     Symantec Corporation
           Internet: [e-mail]

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From: [e-mail] (Matt Mora)
Date: 14 May 92 01:54:00 GMT
Organization: SRI International, Menlo Park, California

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Lawrence D'Oliveiro, Waikato University) writes:
>In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Jim Ryan) writes:
>> How does one center an alert?  I'm using Think C.
>
>Congratulations! You've discovered the main reason for giving up on ALRTs,
>and using DLOGs exclusively.

Huh? Whats the problem in centering alerts? Read in the alert info
change the coordinates and then call alert. What's so hard about that?

If your using system seven just set the bits with resedit.

I'm at the WWDC so I can't post the code to show you how to do this
but it is pretty trival.

Matt




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___________________________________________________________

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From: [e-mail] (Lawrence D'Oliveiro, Waikato University)
Date: 14 May 92 03:04:22 GMT
Organization: University of Waikato, Hamilton, New Zealand

In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Phil Shapiro) writes:
> In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail]
> (Lawrence D'Oliveiro, Waikato University) writes:
>
>    In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Jim
>    Ryan) writes:
>   > How does one center an alert?  I'm using Think C.
>
>    Congratulations! You've discovered the main reason for giving up on
>    ALRTs, and using DLOGs exclusively.
>
> Hmm, I'm not sure what you mean by this -- both DLOGs and ALRTs can be
> centered using the same code. If you're using THINK C, you can use the
> PositionDialog() routine in TBUtilities.c, which is provided with the
> TCL.

Thanks for the clarification about code provided with THINK C. My point was
how you'd implement these sorts of things with Toolbox-level manipulations;
with a DLOG, I can define it to be initially invisible, retrieve the global
window bounds from the resource handle, calculate a new position, and then do
a MoveWindow followed by a ShowWindow to make it appear in the right place.
With an ALRT, I'd have to poke a new window bounds rectangle into the
resource handle in memory before bringing up the alert, which is the sort
of thing I prefer not to do.

Lawrence
Born-again Modula-2ist

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From: [e-mail] (John Wallace)
Organization: TRW Data Systems Center, Redondo Beach, CA
Date: Thu, 14 May 92 19:41:32 GMT

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Lawrence D'Oliveiro, Waikato University) writes:
>In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Jim Ryan) writes:
>> How does one center an alert?  I'm using Think C.
>
>Congratulations! You've discovered the main reason for giving up on ALRTs,
>and using DLOGs exclusively.
>
>Lawrence
>resident VideoBigot and QuickTime enthusiast


Do something like this:

function CenteredAlert(alertId:Integer; filterProc:ProcPtr):Integer;
  var
    alert : AlertTHndl;
    hSize, vSize : Integer;
    screenBounds : Rect;
begin
    (* Load the alert resource and compute is size on the screen *)
    alert := AlertTHndl(GetResource('ALRT', alertId));
    hSize := alert^^.boundsRect.right - alert^^.boundsRect.left;
    vSize := alert^^.boundsRect.bottom - alert^^.boundsRect.top;

    (* Comptute the center of the main screen *)
    screenBounds := GetMainDevice^^.gdRect;
    hCenter := (screenBounds.left + screenBounds.right) div 2;
    vCenter := (screenBounds.top + screenBounds.bottom) div 2;

    (* Set the alert's bounds so it will be centered on the main screen *)
    alert^^.boundsRect.left := hCenter - (hSize div 2);
    alert^^.boundsRect.right := alert^^.boundsRect.left + hSize;
    alert^^.boundsRect.top := vCenter - (vSize div 2);
    alert^^.boundsRect.top := alert^^.boundsRect.left + vSize;

    (* Bring up the alert.  When Alert calls GetResource it will
     * find the info we just set in the alert's resource. Note
     * that this info is only in memory; it won't be written
     * to disk unless we called ChangeResource and then
     * write it to disk using WriteResource. (You probably don't
     * want to write the info to disk, since the whole point
     * is to properly position the Alert on any display system.)
     *)
    CenteredAlert := Alert(alertId, filterProc)
end;

(Sorry in advance for any typos.  I don't have a Mac handy
to test this code on.)

Cheers!
John
- ---
John Wallace        [e-mail]

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From: [e-mail] (Richard Chandler)
Date: 16 May 92 03:01:16 GMT
Organization: InterCon Systems Corporation

{Code example deleted}

If you know you're going to use this technique, you can save yourself a
little computation by putting the topleft of the alert at (0, 0), then the
bottom and right coordinates give you your width and height.

I think there was a human interface guidline that suggested not exactly
centering the alert, but theoretically having the top aligned with an
imaginary line 1/3 of the way down the screen.  Aesthetically that's a bit
bette anyway.


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From: [e-mail] (Avi Rappoport)
Date: 18 May 92 23:48:42 GMT
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link

John Wallace            [e-mail]

Did a good job with this, and his code should work.  It's easy to
change it to 1/3 of the way down the screen.

2 problems:

1) How do you decide which is the "active" screen?  It's either the
location of the majority of the active window, or the screen on which
the cursor is located -- I never got a chance to test this with users.

2) You have to cope with Radius etc. monitors, which change screenbits.
bounds and create a region rather than a rect.  I have some code somewhere,
but again, never got to test it.

Anyone else?

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From: [e-mail] (John Wallace)
Organization: TRW Data Systems Center, Redondo Beach, CA
Date: Tue, 19 May 92 22:07:07 GMT

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Avi Rappoport) writes:
>
>2) You have to cope with Radius etc. monitors, which change screenbits.
>bounds and create a region rather than a rect.  I have some code somewhere,
>but again, never got to test it.
>

I haven't been able to test the code on Radius monitors, so I don't
know whether the original code will work on them for certain.

However, in the code, I get the main graphics device and then find
its bounds rect.  (The main graphics device is the one with the
menubar on it.)  I would guess that Radius sets up its GWorlds
properly, otherwise all sorts of things would fail on their
monitors.  Does anyone know for certain??

Thanks
John

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From: [e-mail] (Avi Rappoport)
Date: 20 May 92 22:16:52 GMT
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link

In <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (John Wallace) writes:

>I haven't been able to test the code on Radius monitors, so I don't
>know whether the original code will work on them for certain.

>However, in the code, I get the main graphics device and then find
>its bounds rect.  (The main graphics device is the one with the
>menubar on it.)  I would guess that Radius sets up its GWorlds
>properly, otherwise all sorts of things would fail on their
>monitors.  Does anyone know for certain??


Nope.  Radius doesn't use GWorlds at all, just screenbits.bounds.  I think this is because non-color-capable (color-incapable?) Macs don't have GWorlds.  And
things do fail.

Avi



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From: [e-mail] (Jim Ryan)
Subject: Fun with FindFolder
Date: 15 May 92 18:24:50 GMT
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated


OK, my prefs code is getting close.  A BIG thanks to all who have given
me all the great feedback! I went the resource route, but now
FindFolder is giving me fits.

FindFolder returns the blessed System volume number and the
"directory ID," right?  My code will currently save and retrieve
the Prefs file to the blessed System Folder under System 6, however
passing the FindFolder results to SetVol(theDirID, theSysVRefNum) puts my
prefs file in the same folder as my app when running 7.0.
What am I doing wrong?  Below is part of my code:

- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
// this is the struct where I store the pref values
//--------------------------------------------------
typedef    struct {
    int            cp, tp, in, cm, clear, position, horiz, vert;
} prefSettings;

extern prefSettings    gPrefStruct;

// this is the function that writes the prefs out
//--------------------------------------------------
void WritePrefs(void)  // write out prefs file before quiting
{
    OSErr        theError;
    SysEnvRec    SysEnvData;
    int            theSysVRefNum, theDirID, theFileRefNum;
    Handle        resHandle;

    // set Handle to struct size
    resHandle = NewHandle(sizeof(gPrefStruct));

    // get system data
    theError = SysEnvirons(1, &SysEnvData);

    if (theError == noErr) {
        // if System 7
        if (SysEnvData.systemVersion >= 0x0700) {
            // find Preference folder
            FindFolder(kOnSystemDisk, kPreferencesFolderType,
                                    kCreateFolder, &theSysVRefNum, &theDirID);
                        SetVol(theDirID, theSysVRefNum);
        }
        else {
            theSysVRefNum = SysEnvData.sysVRefNum;
   SetVol(nil, theSysVRefNum);
        }

        // always remove old prefs
        FSDelete("\pThe Prefs", theSysVRefNum);


        // always create new prefs file
        theError = Create("\pThe Prefs", theSysVRefNum, 'ABCD', 'pprf');

        //create resource fork in the prefs file
        CreateResFile("\pThe Prefs");

        if (theError == noErr) {
            // open prefs file
            theFileRefNum = OpenResFile("\pThe Prefs");

            // add a resourse to the prefs file
            AddResource(resHandle, 'STUF', 128, "\prefs");

            if (ResError() == 0) {
                // get the resource so we can play with it
                resHandle = GetResource('STUF', 128);

                // toss the prefs struct info into the resource
                HLock(resHandle);
                BlockMove((Ptr)&gPrefStruct, *resHandle, (long) sizeof(prefSettings));
                HUnlock(resHandle);

                // let the resource manager know we're done playing
                ChangedResource(resHandle);
                WriteResource(resHandle);

                // close the prefs resource file
                CloseResFile(theFileRefNum);
            }
        }
    }
}

// and this is the function that gets the prefs
//---------------------------------------------------
void GetPrefs(void) // gets prefs from prefs file
{
    OSErr        theError;
    SysEnvRec    SysEnvData;
    int            theSysVRefNum, theDirID, theFileRefNum;
    Handle        resHandle;

    // get blessed System Folder
    theError = SysEnvirons(1, &SysEnvData);

    if (theError == noErr) {
        // if System 7
        if (SysEnvData.systemVersion >= 0x0700) {
            // find Preference folder
            FindFolder(kOnSystemDisk, kPreferencesFolderType,
                                    kCreateFolder, &theSysVRefNum, &theDirID);
   SetVol(theDirID, theSysVRefNum);
        }
        else {
            theSysVRefNum = SysEnvData.sysVRefNum;
   SetVol(nil, theSysVRefNum);
        }

        // open prefs file
        theFileRefNum = OpenResFile("\pThe Prefs");

        if (theFileRefNum != -1) {
            // get the resource so we can play with it
            resHandle = GetResource('STUF', 128);

            if (resHandle != nil) {
                // get info from the resource and place it in the prefs struct
                HLock(resHandle);
                BlockMove(*resHandle, (Ptr)&gPrefStruct, (long) sizeof(prefSettings));
                HUnlock(resHandle);
            }
            else {
                TheErrorHandler(PREFS_ERROR);
                SetDefaults();
            }

            // close the prefs file
            CloseResFile(theFileRefNum);

            // check and make sure we got good data
            DoPrefsCheck();
        }
        // if no prefs file, or problem, set defaults
        else {
            SetDefaults();
        }
    }
    // if SysEnvirons returns error, then so do we
    else {
        TheErrorHandler(SYSTEM_ERROR);
    }
}
- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Any suggestons to clean this code up would also be greatly appreciated.

Thanks again,
jr

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From: [e-mail] (Keith Rollin)
Date: 19 May 92 23:16:32 GMT
Organization: Taligent

In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Jim Ryan) writes:
>
>
> OK, my prefs code is getting close.  A BIG thanks to all who have given
> me all the great feedback! I went the resource route, but now
> FindFolder is giving me fits.
>
> FindFolder returns the blessed System volume number and the
> "directory ID," right?  My code will currently save and retrieve
> the Prefs file to the blessed System Folder under System 6, however
> passing the FindFolder results to SetVol(theDirID, theSysVRefNum) puts my
> prefs file in the same folder as my app when running 7.0.
> What am I doing wrong?  Below is part of my code:
>
> [ code deleted ]
>
> Any suggestons to clean this code up would also be greatly appreciated.
>

I don't know what's going wrong, but I wouldn't bother even trying to find out.
Just get rid of the call to SetVol. You don't need it, and it's obviously
causing you problems. Get rid of it and call HOpenResFile and HCreateResFile
instead.

- --
Keith Rollin
Phantom Programmer
Taligent, Inc.

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From: Justin Harvey
Subject: Think C 4 & 5
Date: 15 May 92 21:39:56 GMT
Organization: University of Alaska, Southeast

I am a High School C Programmer here at Juneau-Douglas High School and my
computer lab teacher has TC 4.5 which is the System 7 comp. version.
I was wondering if there is an update package for 4 -> 5 and if so is it worth
changing?
    Thanks,
        Justin Harvey


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From: [e-mail] (Gerald Siek)
Date: 20 May 92 11:31:37 GMT
Organization: Uni-GH Paderborn

Justin Harvey writes:

>I am a High School C Programmer here at Juneau-Douglas High School and my
>computer lab teacher has TC 4.5 which is the System 7 comp. version.
>I was wondering if there is an update package for 4 -> 5 and if so is it worth
>changing?

>I am a High School C Programmer here at Juneau-Douglas High School and my
>computer lab teacher has TC 4.5 which is the System 7 comp. version.
>I was wondering if there is an update package for 4 -> 5 and if so is it worth
>changing?

There is ... and it's worth buying (sorry, update 4 -> 5 isn't free).
Version 5 eliminates quite some bugs and memory restrictions.  It has
a lot more compiler-, language- and optimization options.
I was porting a HUGE and complicated UNIX program with version 4 and it
simply failed because of the memory limitations.  With version 5 all runs
fine, especially the debugger can now handle the whole code (330.000 lines)
with no problems.

        Jerry
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From: [e-mail] (Ed Kresch)
Subject: SetLineWidth question
Date: 19 May 92 15:44:46 GMT
Organization: Villanova University

I have a question about SetLineWidth and the explanation of it given in
Technical Note 175.  According to my understanding of TN175, the C program
shown below should draw a thin line, a thick line, and a thin line.  What it
does is draw a thin line and two thick lines.  Did I misunderstand the
technical note or is there an error somewhere?

        theWidth = (Point**)NewHandle (sizeof (Point));

/* Draw a horizontal line of 1 point thickness */

        SetPt (*theWidth, 1, 1);
        PicComment (SetLineWidth, sizeof (Point), (Handle)theWidth);
        PenSize (1, 1);
        MoveTo (100, 100);
        LineTo (500, 100);

/* Draw a horizontal line of 5 point thickness */

        SetPt (*theWidth, 1, 5);
        PicComment (SetLineWidth, sizeof (Point), (Handle)theWidth);
        MoveTo (100, 200);
        LineTo (500, 200);

/* Draw a horizontal line of 1 point thickness */

        SetPt (*theWidth, 1, 1);
        PicComment (SetLineWidth, sizeof (Point), (Handle)theWidth);
        PenSize (1, 1);
        MoveTo (100, 300);
        LineTo (500, 300);

        DisposHandle (theWidth);

I am using a Mac II and system 6.0.5.

Thanks.

Ed Kresch

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From: [e-mail] (Pete Gontier)
Date: 20 May 92 17:26:36 GMT

In <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Ed Kresch) writes:

>I have a question about SetLineWidth and the explanation of it given in
>Technical Note 175.  According to my understanding of TN175, the C program
>shown below should draw a thin line, a thick line, and a thin line.  What it
>does is draw a thin line and two thick lines.  Did I misunderstand the
>technical note or is there an error somewhere?

>        SetPt (*theWidth, 1, 5);
>        PicComment (SetLineWidth, sizeof (Point), (Handle)theWidth);
>    /* draw stuff */

>        SetPt (*theWidth, 1, 1);
>        PicComment (SetLineWidth, sizeof (Point), (Handle)theWidth);
>    /* draw stuff */

>I am using a Mac II and system 6.0.5.

It's not your machine or your System version. It's not even the version of
your printer driver. It's a problem at the driver level. Different drivers
do different things with this comment. Don't ask me why; Zz keeps threatening
to write a tech note about it; I think he actually did write something
recently, perhaps in d e v e l o p. Your code needs to look like this:

/* group one */
SetPt (*theWidth, 1, 5);
PicComment (SetLineWidth, sizeof (Point), (Handle)theWidth);
/* draw stuff */

/* group two */
SetPt (*theWidth, 5, 1);
PicComment (SetLineWidth, sizeof (Point), (Handle)theWidth);
/* draw stuff */

/* group three */
SetPt (*theWidth, 1, 1);
PicComment (SetLineWidth, sizeof (Point), (Handle)theWidth);
/* draw stuff */

Group one sets the line width to what you want. Group two sets it back to
its original size for some printers. Group three sets it back to its
original size for the others (and doesn't affect the group 2 printers,
since they're already at 1,1).

I consider this a bug, but then the differences between MemError, ResError,
and QDError are a bug as far as I'm concerned, so I'm a weenie.
- --
 Pete Gontier // EC Technology // [e-mail]

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Image measurement for the Mac ??
Organization: Memorial University. St.John's Nfld, Canada
Date: Thu, 21 May 1992 14:22:46 GMT

Hello !

  could anyone on this group supply me with information regarding an image
MEASUREMENT system I could use on digitized photographs on a Macintosh
computer ?  I am looking for PD/Shareware or commercial software that will
permit me to measure scanned pictures (in TIFF or PICT or GIF format) of fish
otoliths (ear bones) to within at least 0.1 mm.
  There are commercial packages for the PC that will do this (Optimus, for
example), but I would rather not spend $20K just to get this system on-line !
Surely there is something I could use for the Mac ??
  I have access to colour or black and white, and have tried Image 3.1.1 and
MacMeasure to no avail.
  Any help with this would be greatly appreciated !
                                                regards, Jack
                                            [e-mail]

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From: [e-mail] (David E. Sappington)
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Thu, 21 May 1992 15:42:57 GMT

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] writes:
[ wants to measure stuff in scanned images ]

I haven't used it extensively (and never for measuring stuff) but you
might want to check out Image 1.44 by Wayne Rasband at NIH.  It's available
via anon-ftp from alw.nih.gov (128.231.128.7) in pub/image.  The Pascal
source code is there as well so that you can add functionality if necessary.

Dave Sappington                     [e-mail]
Institute for Parallel Computation  [e-mail]
University of Virginia


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From: [e-mail] (Erik G. Olson)
Subject: Are "virtual" (software) monitors possible?
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY
Date: Sat, 16 May 1992 06:25:34 GMT

Hi. I'm rather new to programming the Macintosh, and was wondering if
anyone would comment on what I would need to learn about to pull off
a (rather silly) system hack:

Let's say I have a graphics device hooked up to my serial port. Never
mind how it works; just suppose one can write Mac programs that
put bitmapped graphics onto it, make it do drawing primitives, etc.

Now, my question is, how could you fool the operating system into
thinking that there actually existed a monitor out there that had
to be dealt with by making calls to our special software that
controls this graphics device? And how could we make this usable
as part of the desktop?

Is this crazy or what?


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[e-mail]               =+ I can bear it. In what quarter of the globe
                             =+ Have I descended like a meteorite?
                             =+ ---Cyrano de Bergerac, Act III

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From: [e-mail] (Tim Dierks, software saboteur)
Date: 20 May 92 03:09:41 GMT
Organization: MacDTS Misfits

In article <9![e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Erik G. Olson) writes:
> Hi. I'm rather new to programming the Macintosh, and was wondering if
> anyone would comment on what I would need to learn about to pull off
> a (rather silly) system hack:
>
> Let's say I have a graphics device hooked up to my serial port. Never
> mind how it works; just suppose one can write Mac programs that
> put bitmapped graphics onto it, make it do drawing primitives, etc.
>
> Now, my question is, how could you fool the operating system into
> thinking that there actually existed a monitor out there that had
> to be dealt with by making calls to our special software that
> controls this graphics device? And how could we make this usable
> as part of the desktop?

Well.... Yes and no.  In QuickDraw, monitors are not really "devices"-
they're frame buffers.  This means that QuickDraw doesn't make calls
to you that you can translate in order to pass the data to your
device; it just attempts to blast everything into a chunk of memory
you have spoecified as your screen memory.  (This isn't 100% true,
but it's probably close enough for the moment.)  Therefore, the
only thing you can do is provide a buffer for QuickDraw to image
into, then pump the buffer over the serial line to your device.
You can find out when & where QuickDraw is drawing to your device
by patching ShieldCursor and ShowCursor; all drawing is bracketed
by calls to these traps.

Best of luck.

Tim Dierks
MacDTS, but I speak for myself

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From: [e-mail] (Francois Menneteau)
Subject: detecting when a volume or floppy is mounted, how?
Date: 18 May 92 16:30:10 GMT
Organization: IMAG Institute, University of Grenoble, France


I have an application that gets the mounted volume and displays them. However,
if a volume is mounted after the application is launched, the application is
no information about this volume, and so the user cannot select files from it.

I think by patching traps like PBMountVol to notify my application can be a
solution. However each time Apple will release a new trap that mounts vol,
I will be obliged to build again my application.

An other solution, would be to regularly get the list of all the mounted
volume, but I'd like to avoid this solution (it is time consuming, not very
logical, and implies code to compare the new volumes list to the old one).

So, has anybody a good (and esthetic :-)) solution to my problem?

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================== ()    /O   O\    () their fate their fortune in my visions
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From: [e-mail] (Jim Reekes)
Date: 19 May 92 19:51:51 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer, Inc.

In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Francois Menneteau) writes:
>
>
> I have an application that gets the mounted volume and displays them. However,
> if a volume is mounted after the application is launched, the application is
> no information about this volume, and so the user cannot select files from it.
>
> I think by patching traps like PBMountVol to notify my application can be a
> solution. However each time Apple will release a new trap that mounts vol,
> I will be obliged to build again my application.
>
> An other solution, would be to regularly get the list of all the mounted
> volume, but I'd like to avoid this solution (it is time consuming, not very
> logical, and implies code to compare the new volumes list to the old one).
>
> So, has anybody a good (and esthetic :-)) solution to my problem?

You can poll in your event loop (not every time, but every couple seconds) for
additional volumes that have been mounted.  Just use the indexed calls
to find information about volumes.  This *isn't* time consuming, and it's
also the logical choice.  You don't have to patch anything.  You're already
maintaining the list of vRefNums and the volume name which is a small amount
of data you can keep in an array.  The volume name is limited to a Str27,
so you can keep the size of the array pretty small.  This list will also be
fast to search since it's only going to contain a few items. 20 volumes would
be a big list, but a linear search will be very fast.


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                             |          Sound Manager Expert
Apple Computer, Inc.         | "All opinions expressed are mine, and do
20525 Mariani Ave. MS: 81-KS |   not necessarily represent those of my
Cupertino, CA 95014          |       employer, Apple Computer Inc."

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From: [e-mail] (Keith Rollin)
Date: 19 May 92 23:04:14 GMT
Organization: Taligent

In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Francois Menneteau) writes:
>
>
> I have an application that gets the mounted volume and displays them. However,
> if a volume is mounted after the application is launched, the application is
> no information about this volume, and so the user cannot select files from it.
>
> I think by patching traps like PBMountVol to notify my application can be a
> solution. However each time Apple will release a new trap that mounts vol,
> I will be obliged to build again my application.
>
> An other solution, would be to regularly get the list of all the mounted
> volume, but I'd like to avoid this solution (it is time consuming, not very
> logical, and implies code to compare the new volumes list to the old one).
>
> So, has anybody a good (and esthetic :-)) solution to my problem?

I would use your second solution. Patching PBMountVol will only work if your
application is active when PBMountVol is called. Similarly, disk-inserted events
are sent only to the frontmost application.

Checking for new volumes by polling shouldn't be that bad. First, start with the
following data structure:

struct MountedVolume {
    Str31 name;
    long creationDate;
    Boolean mark;
    struct MountedVolume* next;
};

Using this, you can create a list of mounted volumes (store the creation date of
the volume to differentiate between identically named volumes). You can then
iterate over the list of currently mounted volumes, finding new entries that you
don't know about. Using the "mark" variable, you can use a mark-and-sweep
technique for detecting entries in your list that refer to now unmounted
volumes.

I usually keep 3 or 4 volumes mounted at a time at work. Making 3 to 16 string
comparisons shouldn't make much of an impact if you resync once a second or so.

I think that there is a low-memory vector that the File System calls when a
volume is mounted. However:

a) I don't think this vector is documented
b) I don't know if it's swapped when your application is swapped out
c) I don't know if it's called when a volume is unmounted.

So it's probably not a good idea to use this vector if it indeed exists.

- --
Keith Rollin
Phantom Programmer
Taligent, Inc.

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From: [e-mail] (Ramsey Dow)
Subject: Two questions
Date: 20 May 92 14:04:32 GMT
Organization: Department of Redundancy Department

I have two questions for the readership of comp.sys.mac.programmers:

1. Exactly how long is a Mac ms?  Is it precisely 1 ms?  A Mac K is 1024 bytes,
   not 1000.  Is there a similar difference between a ms and a Mac ms?

2. Does the event loop slow down an application's ability to process data
   through a hardware interface?

Please respond by email, as I do not read this group very often.  If I get
some good answers I will post a summary.  Thank you in advance.

Ramsey Dow

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Nyarlathotep..the crawling chaos..I am the last..I will tell the audient void.

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From: [e-mail] (JohnC)
Date: 20 May 92 17:28:07 GMT
Organization: The Royal Society for Putting Things on Top of Other Things

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Ramsey Dow) writes:
>I have two questions for the readership of comp.sys.mac.programmers:
>
>1. Exactly how long is a Mac ms?  Is it precisely 1 ms?  A Mac K is 1024 bytes,
>   not 1000.  Is there a similar difference between a ms and a Mac ms?

One kilobyte is defined to be two to the 10th power, or 1024.  This isn't
Mac-specific.  In ancient times, the Finder used to report disk space and file
sizes in units of 1000 bytes, and called these units "K"s, but this has long
since been changed to conform to the standard definition.  So, a "Mac K" _used
to be_ 1000, but now it's 1024.

As for "Mac milliseconds", as far as I know they're standard real
milliseconds. :-)

>2. Does the event loop slow down an application's ability to process data
>   through a hardware interface?

If you mean, does the event loop affect interrupt response, then the answer
is no.  I'm not sure what you mean, though.

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From: [e-mail] (Kevin Hill)
Subject: HOW do I get the finder to update its file information..
Date: 21 May 92 23:12:46 GMT
Organization: Crash TimeSharing, El Cajon, CA


  I have changed the name of a file with one of my programs.  The file itself
happens to be in a window that is open.  When I switch to the finder to delete the file
that is open, I get a "File not found error"  I am assuming that the finder
has not updated its file information since I changed the name and thus is trying
to delete a filename that no longer exists.  Is there a way to send the finder
an event that will tell it to update its file information after I change a
file name?
  any help would be appeciated..
   Thanks everyone!
   Kevin Hill

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From: [e-mail] (Garth Dickie)
Date: 22 May 92 01:44:27 GMT
Organization: Univ. of Wisconsin Dept. of Mathematics

You need to change the modification date of the parent directory.
The routine TickleParent below works for me.  In case you are not
using the FSSpec structure, the routine MakeWDSpec will convert
a working directory / filename pair to a psuedo-FSSpec.  I use
this when the new file manager calls are not available, as the rest
of my code passes around FSSpecs.  The code compiles under THINK C
5.0, with the usual headers.

BTW (mild flame) this is simple enough that it's pretty annoying
when people don't do it.  Most of the nifty little 'drag-and-drop'
utilities that have come around recently forget to do this.  Feel
free to use the code below in any way you see fit.

OSErr TickleParent( FSSpec * child ) {
    CInfoPBRec    pb;
    OSErr         err = noErr;

    pb.dirInfo.ioCompletion = 0;
    pb.dirInfo.ioNamePtr = 0;
    pb.dirInfo.ioVRefNum = child->vRefNum;
    pb.dirInfo.ioFDirIndex = -1;              // get info based on the DirID
    pb.dirInfo.ioDrDirID = child->parID;

    if(( err = PBGetCatInfoSync( &pb )) != noErr ) return err;

    GetDateTime( &pb.dirInfo.ioDrMdDat );

    err = PBSetCatInfoSync( &pb );

    return err;
}

OSErr MakeWDSpec( FSSpec *spec, short vRefNum, ConstStr255Param name ) {
    WDPBRec          parameter;
    Size             length;
    OSErr            err;

    parameter.ioCompletion = 0;
    parameter.ioNamePtr = 0;
    parameter.ioVRefNum = vRefNum;
    parameter.ioWDIndex = 0;
    parameter.ioWDProcID = 0;
    parameter.ioWDVRefNum = 0;

    err = PBGetWDInfoSync( ¶meter );

    spec->vRefNum = parameter.ioWDVRefNum;
    spec->parID = parameter.ioWDDirID;

    length = MIN( *name, sizeof spec->name - 1 );
    BlockMove( name + 1, spec->name + 1, length );
    *spec->name = length;

    return err;
}
- --

garth dickie -- [e-mail] -- math agnostic (and student)

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From: [e-mail] (opcode ranger)
Subject: Need Graphics Book Rec
Date: 18 May 92 22:07:25 GMT

I'm a self-taught Mac programmer and I'd like to get a good book that will
give me some background on computer graphics (y'know, the really cool stuff
like in Terminator 2! :->).

What's a good introductory but non-puffy book?  I seem to remember that there
is supposedly some standard text by "Van" someone, or no?  Is that any good?
I'd like something with good depth and background, but something that will also
help me learn quickly.

Replies by e-mail would be much appreciated, since my phone link to this
newssite is rather expensive.


Thanks!

Robert

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From: [e-mail] (rodney jacks)
Organization: Motorola Inc, Austin, Texas
Date: Tue, 19 May 1992 20:14:12 GMT

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (opcode ranger) writes:
>I'm a self-taught Mac programmer and I'd like to get a good book that will
>give me some background on computer graphics (y'know, the really cool stuff
>like in Terminator 2! :->).
>
>What's a good introductory but non-puffy book?  I seem to remember that there
>is supposedly some standard text by "Van" someone, or no?  Is that any good?
>I'd like something with good depth and background, but something that will also
>help me learn quickly.

The book I think you are referring to is "Computer Graphics" by Foley and
VanDam (sp?).  While it is a good college-level textbook book, I don't
think it one to learn quickly from...

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From: [e-mail] (Lothar Fritsch)
Date: 21 May 92 07:30:38 GMT
Organization: Fachschaft Informatik, U of Saarland, FRG

The book you mean is:

Computer Graphics - Principles and Practice
by Foley, van Dam & others.

Addison-Wesley #12110

It has about 1200 pages, lots of color images, and lots of stuff to read.
But if you want a book to quickly learn and look up algorithms, it isn't a
book for you. They write very extensive about the foudations of computer
graphics, from CRT to radiosity, but more under the aspect of 'how does it
work' instead of 'here are the algorithms'.

Yours,

Lothar Fritsch

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e-mail: [e-mail]    phone: (ger) 06821-72562

       "You don't have to sleep to see nightmares." - (Anne Clarke)

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